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Today's Topics:

   1. vi and sudo (G Saoutine)
   2. RE: stopping shell execution from with vi editor as root (Thomas 

Robinson)
   3. RE: vi and sudo (Thomas Robinson)
   4. RE: vi and sudo (Allan.Marillier at dana.com)
   5. RE: vi and sudo (Brent Fortman)
   6. sudo error (Boehler, Joe)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 19:20:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: G Saoutine <gsaoutine at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Grisha at Saoutine.com
Subject: vi and sudo
To: sudo-users at sudo.ws

dear list,

i am new to sudo and recently installed it on sun
solaris 2.6. when i open vi while acting in the sudo
context, vi still seems lets me execute shell commands
as root.

did i miss something in configuration? or what am i
doing wrong?

thanks,
greg

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Message: 2
Subject: RE: stopping shell execution from with vi editor as root
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:44:17 +0100
From: "Thomas Robinson" <tom.robinson at ehbas.com>
To: <sudo-users at sudo.ws>


> 
> I see two approaches to this.
> 
> One is to have the files belong to a limited group, with write access
> granted to the group, and with the specific users belonging 
> to the group.
> If you include some sort of source control, such as SCCS or RCS, or
> something more modern, this makes things pretty clean.  Oh, 
> the containing
> directory should have the group sticky bit set and belong to the group
> so the files continue to be owned by that group.
> 
> An alternative is to grant the users the ability to copy on top of the
> files in question, perhaps through the use of an appropriate script to
> control access.  They edit a private copy and then replace the public
> copy with the private copy.
> 
> Rich

Sounds ok but we found another way. Linux has a /bin/rvi and /bin/rview
which restrict the use of the shell from within editing sessions.

Thanks

Tom

> 
> At 12:49 PM 04/12/2002 +0100, Thomas Robinson wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'd like to give permissions to some users so that they can edit
> >specific files as root. Unfortunately in my simple set up 
> they can also
> >execute the :! command and gain root shell access. Is there 
> any way to
> >defeat this or should I implement a different method to 
> enable users to
> >edit files as root?
> >
> >My config looks roughly like the following:
> >
> >Cmnd_Alias         ICANEDIT            /bin/vi /etc/some.conf
> >
> >auser               myhost             = (root) ICANEDIT
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >Thomas Robinson
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Message: 3
Subject: RE: vi and sudo
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:46:43 +0100
From: "Thomas Robinson" <tom.robinson at ehbas.com>
To: <sudo-users at sudo.ws>

> dear list,
> 
> i am new to sudo and recently installed it on sun
> solaris 2.6. when i open vi while acting in the sudo
> context, vi still seems lets me execute shell commands
> as root.

I'm not sure about Solaris, but linux has /bin/rvi and /bin/rview which
restrict the use of such things as executing shells from within an
editing session.

Tom


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Message: 4
Subject: RE: vi and sudo
To: tom.robinson at ehbas.com
Cc: sudo-users at sudo.ws, gsaoutine at yahoo.com
From: Allan.Marillier at dana.com
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:42:14 -0400


vi on Linux is very often vim, which gives you the rvi

You can go to http://www.vim.org and download the latest source
for vim and compile it for any platform. I've built it with no trouble
on HP-UX and AIX, and also use precompiled vim executables on
my PC under Windows. (Adding some class and power to the OS!)

vim also gives you a GUI environment if you want it (gvim) and has a 

rgvim
version as well, to give a restricted GUI vi.

vim has a number of benefits over stock vi, including providing simple
file locking - ensuring that two people don't vi the same file at the 

same
time
and trash each other's changes.

(No - I have nothing to do with the vim project - I just believe it's a
very good
vi implentation.)



                                                                         


                                
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> dear list,
>
> i am new to sudo and recently installed it on sun
> solaris 2.6. when i open vi while acting in the sudo
> context, vi still seems lets me execute shell commands
> as root.

I'm not sure about Solaris, but linux has /bin/rvi and /bin/rview which
restrict the use of such things as executing shells from within an
editing session.

Tom


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Message: 5
From: Brent Fortman <Brent.Fortman at radioshack.com>
To: "'Grisha at Saoutine.com'" <Grisha at Saoutine.com>
Cc: sudo-users at sudo.ws
Subject: RE: vi and sudo
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:03:12 -0500

> "while acting in the sudo context"

You may think sudo is doing more than it is designed to do.  When you 

"sudo
vi" you are simply running vi as root. There is no "sudo context" once 

vi
begins to execute. Given that, it is a common practice amongst sudo
administrators to find other alternatives or exclude altogether the use 

of
vi with sudo.

Brent

-----Original Message-----
From: G Saoutine [mailto:gsaoutine at yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:21 PM
To: sudo-users at sudo.ws
Subject: vi and sudo


dear list,

i am new to sudo and recently installed it on sun
solaris 2.6. when i open vi while acting in the sudo
context, vi still seems lets me execute shell commands
as root.

did i miss something in configuration? or what am i
doing wrong?

thanks,
greg

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Message: 6
From: "Boehler, Joe" <Joe.Boehler at agedwards.com>
To: "'sudo-users at sudo.ws'" <sudo-users at sudo.ws>
Subject: sudo error
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:26:04 -0500

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I've encountered an error in sudo I've never seen before. A user 

executing a
sudo command, in this case, a Veritas Netbackup command

sudo /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies/nb_class_list servername receives 

the
following:

$ sudo /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies/nb_class_list myserver
*******************************
      Client: myserver       
*******************************
root is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
*******************************
$ id
uid=12353(boehlejt) gid=4(adm)
$ 

It doesn't matter who the user is, the response from sudo is the same.


I've looked at the permissions in sudo and they look correct. The 

command
starts to execute, but then complains that root is not in the sudoers.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Joe Boehler  59068
Unix Admin



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case, a Veritas Netbackup command</FONT></P>

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/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies/n=
b_class_list myserver</FONT>
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FACE=3D"r_ansi">*******************************</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"r_ansi">      

Client: m=
yserver       </FONT>
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FACE=3D"r_ansi">*******************************</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"r_ansi">root is not in the sudoers 

file.  T=
his incident will be reported.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 

FACE=3D"r_ansi">*******************************</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"r_ansi">$ id</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"r_ansi">uid=3D12353(boehlejt) 

gid=3D4(adm)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">It doesn't matter who the user is, the 

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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I've looked at the 

permi=
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th=
en complains that root is not in the sudoers.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Any 

suggestions?</FONT>
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<P><I><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Thanks</FONT></I>
<BR><I><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Joe 

Boehler  5=
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